BEYOND THE GRID: Liam Lawson on making it to Red Bull, teaming up with Verstappen and his 2025 goals

A new Formula 1 season means the return of the Beyond The Grid podcast and, for 2025’s opening episode, we caught up with recently promoted Red Bull driver Liam Lawson.
While he is no longer a full rookie, given his 11 previous stand-in drives for Red Bull’s sister team in 2023 and 2024, Lawson is preparing to embark on a full F1 season for the first time.
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So, how does the 23-year-old New Zealander feel about this next step? What did he do to persuade Team Principal Christian Horner and Red Bull Motorsport Advisor Helmut Marko that he was the right man to replace Sergio Perez? And how is he approaching the challenge of having four-time World Champion Max Verstappen as his new team mate?
Speaking to host Tom Clarkson at Red Bull’s factory in Milton Keynes, Lawson answers all the big questions ahead of what could be a career-defining year.
To listen to this week’s episode of Beyond The Grid, simply hit go on the audio player above or click here to listen via your preferred podcasting platform.
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You can also check out a huge selection of previous episodes – spanning every decade of F1 – in our dedicated Beyond The Grid library here.

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